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[aprilstarchild]

I want frosting. Cake, with frosting. Or maybe a handful of cookies, or a can of non-diet pop (I tried drinking diet earlier, it was disgusting and unsatisfying). I want sour patch kids.

But, yeah, frosting tops the list. Oh, and chocolate chip cookie dough.

Anyone have any idea when my cravings for sugar may subside? Because I'm going crazy.

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Also, I have slaughtered my friends list again. Many apologies to the people I cut, but I really need to get a life outside my computer.

Not that you'd know it, seeing as I'm sitting around reading slash, but hey.

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[alicia-stardust.livejournal.com]

It takes a few weeks for the extreme sugar cravings to subside. What I did experience was this: the more I "cheated" and had little bits of sugar here and there, the longer it took to get over the major cravings. As hard as it was, I did best when I just did it right. I didn't allow any room for negotiations. :)

[aprilstarchild.livejournal.com]

My only cheats involve alcohol. Hell, that's the only time I drink fruit juice.

I'm going to end up gaining weight, because my body insists that I eat things that normally taste sweet, like cereal with soymilk, or pancakes. So I eat them, and then I still want sugar, so I eat something else....

Also, it seems to be trying to replace sweets with fat. I've eaten a lot of potato chips.

I'm so glad I'm not the only one to go through this, even if your reasons for doing it truly suck.

I'm very proud of myself for not slipping up, but I think that's why I made it a public announcement kinda thing, so that I was more accountable.

[sagcat.livejournal.com]

sounds familiar.

And since you've been doing the sugar thing, it's made me more aware of sugars in *my* food and drink. I think I'll try to cut back and see if that helps me with some of my issues. I consume entirely too much sugar.

[aprilstarchild.livejournal.com]

*lol* It does sound familiar, doesn't it??

Please don't misunderstand me--I'm willing to bet money that quitting narcotic painkillers is a tad more difficult than skipping sugar of any kind. Your accomplishments on that one far outweigh mine.

If you think about the fact that fruit juice's sugars are, what, 100% fructose?? --or actually read ingredient lists, you'll be surprised how much sugar you eat. It's in everything. There's added sugar in cheerios.

Now, in natural foods it's got all different names: agave nector, cane juice, rice syrup....they're all added sugar.

[sagcat.livejournal.com]

You know, I gave up High Fructose Corn Syrup, which eliminated about 3/4's of the grocery store, but I still let myself get other sugars. I get happy when some natural food is sweetened with organic cane juice or brown rice syrup, instead of HFCS. But I think I could conceivably cut out refined sugar as a next step. I would only do all sugars right now if I had doctor's orders.

When I gave up meat, I did it in steps. I started off not eating pigs like 12 years ago, and then gave up another group of meats, and then finally finished off chicken and beef like 5 years ago. I have not given up fish even still. Every now and then I still eat those buggers cause they're so packed with nutrition. I try to be environmentally conscious about the fish I do eat, but I see a day when the resolve will hit me and I'll give fish up entirely.

You've also got me considering a lot of dairy. The ice cream we have isn't looking as good to me today as it was a week ago even. And I never just make eggs for myself anymore. When I eat them, they are in something else for the most part. Like pancakes. (which I also add sugar to. oops.)

I also seriously avoid salt for coronary reasons.

So I've quit narcotics twice and quit smoking cigarettes but giving up sugar seems incredibly difficult in comparison. I *wanted* to give up opiates. I hate the effect they have on my body (very much including my sex drive). But sugar holds a spell over me. So much yum to be had.

[aprilstarchild.livejournal.com]

Sugar, at least, is an "addiction" we're born with. Every living thing is born with it, really. Ameobas in a petri dish gravitate towards a sugar solution.

But it used to be hard for humans to get. There's fruit, but it's not always in season, and that's about it. The modern consumption of all sugars is obscene....we probably eat more sugars in a year (even people who don't eat candy very often) than our ancestors had in a lifetime.

I'm curious about the HFCS. Got any info on why that one would be particularly bad? It's not just because it's processed, all added sweeteners are processed.

[sagcat.livejournal.com]

In short, it's because it's more fattening than other sweetening agents.

HFCS is hyper-concentrated sweetener suspended in a vegetable oil that is useless nutritionally. My understanding is that the process by which the scientists figured out they could stuff way more sugar into the oil than was natural (making HFCS very cheap as a potential ingredient) had the unpleasant but "acceptable" side effect of eliminating any ability for a human being to derive any benefit nutritionally from the fructose. All sugars processed by the body have their pro's and con's and HFCS successfully eliminatred the pro's. For maximizing the pro's and minimizing the con's, brown rice syrup is the best that I know of. It's also about as close to the whole food as you can get. Though I have sucked on sugar cane stalks. =-)

It is very cheap, very sweet, and makes the foods it's in taste "better." Extra HFCS helped Pepsi win the Pepsi Challenge.

It's been cited by several experts in public health as being one of the leading causes of obesity, especially among youth, who consume lots of sodas with HFCS.

Of course the agribusiness, like ADM, and the food companies, like Phillip Morris, pay lots of government bribes to make sure they can still use the stuff excessively.

[aprilstarchild.livejournal.com]

That makes a bit more sense, then.

I do know that sugar in everything is one reason Americans are so fat. I'm starting to be of the opinion that icky food companies should be held to the same laws as tobacco companies--things like, no advertising at children, warning labels....etc.

[sagcat.livejournal.com]

well, a big part of obesity is also saturated and trans- fats. It seems that the big food corps are starting to pay attention to that, but it took the FDA to tell them they had to put transfat info on the packaging for them to finally take it seriously.

Another major factor is the American ability to shoot himself in the foot nutritionally. Go to McDonald's and get food stuffed with saturated fats and chase it with a 3000 calerie sized Coke with a lifetime's supply of HFCS. I mean, people are fucking stupid.

Toss in a culture that discourages exercise, and bake at 350 for 30 years, and everyone is fat.

[aprilstarchild.livejournal.com]

http://www.mugglenet.com/wallofshame.shtml

*is laughing....hard*

[sagcat.livejournal.com]

The part where the guy goes off about how stupid H/Hr folk are?

Cause I honestly don't care. JKR screwed it up, it's her book to screw up, it's done. It doesn't make any sense, but that's the way things are sometimes.

[aprilstarchild.livejournal.com]

No, soryr, just the main page of the wall of shame itself. he gets the stupidest letters imaginable.

I'm just now reading the h/hr stuff, and admittedly the group of people he decided to quote are idiots.

feeling evil.....hehehehehe

[feariebrat.livejournal.com]

do you mean things like this

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[aprilstarchild.livejournal.com]

Only if I ate the curly bits and then licked the frosting off, preferably in a suggestive manner.

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[feariebrat.livejournal.com]

My sugestion would be to lay a peice of plastic over the bed, put the cake on Coral and go to town. But that's just me =P

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[aprilstarchild.livejournal.com]

You are terrible. Now I'm all distracted and stuff.

Maybe that's how I reward myself after a month. God, I'd end up in a diabetic coma or something. That's really romantic. *lol*

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[trillium-flower.livejournal.com]

there was a period of time last year when I wasn't eating much of anything and nothing with sugar except the fruit I was putting in my protein shakes. After about 3 months I decided to have a plain, raised donut. Also known as an old fashioned. I literally vibrated off my chair. I was shaking like a crack whore.

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[aprilstarchild.livejournal.com]

My ND warned me that that might happen, so I'm keeping an eye out for it.

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[alicia-stardust.livejournal.com]

Hehehe. It's a real issue. I hadn't even been having fruit for 3 months, then suddenly I had to have some cranberry juice for a UTI. And I was shaking and buzzing and running around the room it was such a high.

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[aprilstarchild.livejournal.com]

Randome note: what kind of cranberry juice were you drinking?

Most cranberry juice is mixed with other juices that are high in sugar, like apple or white grape. Knudsen's (I think) makes one called "just cranberry," and it's so sour I have to water it down, and I like sour drinks!! I drank a ton of it when I last had a UTI.

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[axiom.livejournal.com]

Shaking like a crack whore, right, gotcha, that goes in the "bad" list...

I was going to have a chocolate bar today in memory, or solitary, or solitude, or whatever the fuck it is protesters do to feel all connected with people going through something totally different way far away. I was going to be all supportive and stuff.

Then I realised that would involve me not eating the chocolate, and well, you're on your own. Good luck with that.

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[aprilstarchild.livejournal.com]

I think the word you're looking for is solidarity. *lol*

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[axiom.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I remembered that today while I was at school.

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[aprilstarchild.livejournal.com]

Dood. I even made a couple of posts not long ago about unions and mentioned the song "solidarity forever." *lol*

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[alicia-stardust.livejournal.com]

You crack me up. Seriously. And I know exactly what you're talking about.

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[feariebrat.livejournal.com]

At least it would be worth it =)

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[aprilstarchild.livejournal.com]

Or, y'know, I could do the tag right.

Not for dragon_mintz!

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[sagcat.livejournal.com]

Food is always overrated. You never realize, for instance, how fucking hard it is to consume *that much* honey (or chocolate sauce or whipped cream, or...) until you've drizzled it all over someone. And then you're in a place where it's stopped being fun and just become *work* and you can't wait till it's over, but one more drop of honey and you're gonna barf. On top of it, your lover is really fucking sticky which may as well be a bucket of cold water on the genitals for how much of a turn on really sticky skin is.

3/4's of a cake? Better invite some friends to help. Otherwise, you'd end up having to wrap Coral up in saran wrap and sticking her in the fridge until you could finish the next day. Actually, it might take more like a week.

Food worked into sex is just so fucking overrated. On the other hand, sharing food after is nice, cause it always makes me hungry.

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[aprilstarchild.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I know what you're talking about, actually. I've tried the food thing before. Depending on what kind of sex you're having, friction is often involved, and that and sticky just don't mix well.

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[alicia-stardust.livejournal.com]

You are so evil but I love it!!

sorry I couldn't resist....*horns fully extended now*

[feariebrat.livejournal.com]

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[axiom.livejournal.com]

So that's what you call those now?

Chocolate. hmmmmmmmmmm